Tom,
great article about your roommate. You should mention that you live together.
posted by hogre on 10/09/08 @ 05:23 p.m.
Hogre,
There is an insinuation in your comment. Allow me to clarify:
Tig and I have performed in several shows together and I consider her a friend. While we've exchanged the occasional email and phone call, I haven't seen her in person in over 10 months. We have never been roommates. There was some talk a number of months ago about a group of comics renting a house together-- I was one of those comics. While Tig and a couple of other comics did move forward with that plan, I've never even set foot in the place. Curious to know how you could possibly have heard about any of this, or where you got your erroneous information that I was currently her roommate.
Here's who I am:
I'm a standup comic who's been at it for well over a decade-- this past year and a half I've been inactive due to illness. I know and am on friendly terms with probably half of the comedians in Los Angeles. No exaggeration. Hundreds and hundreds of them. I love comics, from big shot headliners to first year open mikers. You can't do comedy in LA for as long as I have without becoming friends with your fellow comics. (Not unless you're antisocial. Which I'm not, Erin, even though I was a bedwetter and one of the best.) When the editor asked me about writing about comedy for citybeat from time to time I expressed concern. I could write about some brilliant comics, but many of them might also happen to be my friends. It was unavoidable. That's the circle that I run in. Was that a problem?
She thought I could work it out. Here's my promise: If I write about a comic, they're going to be relevant and excellent at their craft. If there's a relevant relationship, I will disclose it.
posted by tomsharpe on 10/10/08 @ 12:34 a.m.
Additional clarification because a sentence came out wrong: the circle I run in contains some brilliant comics. I'm not braggin here and saying I'm a brilliant comic. However, I've written many jokes that are brilliantly mediocre. I'm saying after all these years in LA, I am friends with some people who are pretty damn amazing
posted by hogre on 10/10/08 @ 08:10 p.m.
Hogre,
Your comments and my initial response may have been inadvertently removed along with some targeted comments, which were removed due to their similarity to a glut of comments left on Tig's videos and website and in emails over the past year by a stalker. This person has been court ordered to refrain from all contact with Tig. This is a painful situation and it's truly unfortunate it has to come up here-- I hope that you find it in your heart to understand the circumstances under which you now feel slighted. And I hope that you will refrain from reposting those inappropriate comments as you did above, without waiting for a response.
Again, I am not Tig's roomate. But, I would call her a friend. I have not spoken to her face to face in over 10 months, although we have communicated occasionally by phone and email. As you can see in the interview, I indicated in the question regarding the crackpot tour that I have collaborated with Tig in the past. I was contacted by Tig a number of months ago when she learned that I might have been looking for a place. She and two other comics were concurrently looking for a 4th roommate in a houseful of comedians. I did not move in with them.
As a standup comedian active in the Los Angeles scene for well over a decade, I am on friendly terms with hundreds of comedians. I hope that the concern you've voiced really does regard journalistic integrity as opposed to a personal vendetta and that this will answer your question. My relationships with comedians-- and many of the comics who are most newsworthy in Los Angeles are also my friends-- will have it's pros and cons when I write about comedy. I've learned so much about the inner workings of comedy due to my experience working alongside these comics, interacting with them professionally and socially, and I think this experience qualifies me as an expert as to who is at the top of their comedy game, advancing the craft of standup and making a difference in the Los Angeles and national scene. But I acknowledge it is possible that my friendships might color some objectivity. I keep this in mind and I look to radio for a parallel: I feel that if Steve Jones can do a consistently good radio show, maybe I can somehow pull off an occasional article about comedy. My motivation is this: introduce the Los Angeles public to some truly excellent comedy in the city, and in the process, get paid a few dollars to do it.
I hope this answers your questions
posted by tomsharpe on 10/10/08 @ 09:13 p.m.
Mr. Sharpe,
I find your comments extremely bizzarre and dubious. I asked you if you were her roommate as I'd heard, and you had all my posts and those of another poster removed. Correction: You left one post that was flattering to you.
Now, you come along and mention that Notaro has a stalker. I don't see how that is relevant in any way to you removing posts that only inquire as to the factual nature of your duties as a journalist to disclose. Your statement as to your motivation: "to introduce the Los Angeles public to some truly excellent comedy in the city, and in the process, get paid a few dollars for it," is cast under a cloud if in fact you live with Notaro. You are acting as a member or the press and there are codas you must adhere to. As you can see, my questions are not answered. In light of such prevarications, your stalker story seems very fishy to me and I can't imagine your editor et al. would approve of such a breach of first amendment rights.
posted by hogre on 10/11/08 @ 08:31 a.m. A- statement to police-notaro
B-statement to neil spector investigator for public defender
C- affidavit- sworn by notaro
D- transcript court testimony of notaro
E- Willen- statement to police
F- Willen testimony court
G- Sam consugra worker at tsunamis that night
H. According to Notaro in a recent civil suit she never met Sp at all till April of 2008
How and what happens when Sp arrives at coffee shop.
A. - Sp arrived at the coffee shop and confronted Willen and Notaro.
B. Al all of a sudden and surprisingly walked in . Al immediately walked up to their table and and accused them of being together.. Then Al began Yelling cussing—very much a verbal tirade against both of them. While yelling a vodka bottle falls out of one of her jacket pocket.
C. sits down and says” Like so are you guys are back together?” that’s great and whatever”
D. Al Sp approached us at our table and aggressively yelled insults at the two of us, including, “fucking dyke,” “ugly.” “Cunt,” “bitch.” Etc.
E. WHEN SHE SAW US SITTING TOGETHER, SHE SAID -- SHE SAT DOWN
F. Sp arrived and sat down –
G. No activity or fight at all
H. Only met her once on April 7,2008
Before the Push- what was said or done by Sp?
A. Sp stepped in front of Willen and said, “You trying to avoid me.” Outside
B. At one point during the verbal tirade, Notaro stood up and was standing right near Sp, INSIDE
C the motioning to willen to get stuff sets her off. They are outside
D. SHE SAID: "ARE YOU TRYING TO AVOID ME?"I KEPT SAYING TO STEF TO JUST IGNORE HER, JUST IGNORE HER. THEN AL SAID: "OH, ARE YOU HER FUCKING KEEPER?"
I SAID, "GO GET YOUR STUFF. LET'S JUST GO." Outside.
E. Sp called Willen a, “Dumb ugly dyke. Outside
F. No mention of push by willen but Sp “denigrates their character”
Where was the “push?”
A. Outside
B. Inside
C. Outside
D. Outside
E. Outside
F. Not mentioned
Is Sp “intoxicated”?
A. No mention of intoxication
B. Notaro suspects intoxication but can’t be sure though Sp is in her “face.”
C.No mention of intoxication
D. no mention of intoxication
E. Sp appears intoxicated
F. No mention of intoxication
Supposed falling vodka bottle?
A. No mention of any vodka bottle mini or normal sized
B. Mini bottle falls out of her jacket
C. No mention of vodka
D. Vodka bottle falls out of Sp’s purse and it is retrieved and put back in her purse.
E. No mention of any vodka
F. no alcohol mentioned
Provocation for non existent push?
A. Sp stepped in front of Willen and said, “You trying to avoid me.” Willen ignored Sp
B. At one point while all of this was going on Notaro said she then stood up and she was now standing right next to Al. Nothing said.
C. As I motioned for Stephanie to gather her belongings to leave, Al came closer and pushed me
D. I SAID, "GO GET YOUR STUFF. LET'S JUST GO." AND WHEN I DID, AL GOT IN MY FACE AND PUSHED ME.
E. Willen walked outside and Sp called Willen a, “ Dumb ugly dyke.” Sp then pushed Notaro
F. No Mention of push
After the Push- leaving scene. What did Sp do and how did Willen or Notaro react?
A. No mention of any activity afterwards
B. Notaro advised that both she and Willen then left this coffee shop, due to the fact they didn’t want any more violence to occur on Al’s part. As they quickly walked out of this coffee shop, Notaro said that Al continued to follow them out of this location on foot
C.No mention of Sp doing anything afterwards.
D. WE WALKED OUT OF THE CAFE TOWARDS THE -- WHERE WE WERE PARKED ON THE STREET, AND AL FOLLOWED US AGAIN CALLING US DISGUSTING BULL DIKES, CUNTS, JUST ALL THESE HORRENDOUS NAMES.
E. Notaro and Willen walked away while Sp shouted insults at them.
F. No mention.
What prompted the ladies to leave the establishment the first time?
A. Sp’s “confrontation”
B. Notaro and willen want no more violence. They never left in this version. So they only leave once due to wanting to avoid more of Sp’s violence.
C. Sp calls them names inside… including, “fucking dyke,” “ugly.” “Cunt,” “bitch.” Etc.We ignored her and went outside
D. Notaro suggest they go outside to wait for landlord
E. Left due to Sp saying “how could I be so wrong about you” and telling Willen she is a “dumb ugly dyke”
F. No mention
During push
In all accounts there is different actions or movements or things said but Willen contends that she placed her body in front of Notaro to protect her(we’d assume) Notaro can’t remember this gesture and suggests in the most recent version that this didn’t happen.
Willen’s belongings? Where and how are they handled in the course of the incident?
A. No mention of belonging or retrieval
B. No mention of belongings or retrieval
C. Notaro motions for Willen to retrieve her belongings leaving her outside and alone with Sp after pushed, but no record of any retrieval
D. Notaro motions for willen to retrieve, Sp pushes Notaro. Willen goes back into store and leaves Notaro alone with Sp. Stuff retrieved.
E. No mention by willen of belongings
F. No mention of willen of belongings
Sam consuegra who worked that night witnesses absolutely nothing out of the ordinary and tells Sp that many could testify to that. Signs Affidavit saying “there was no activity or fight at all. Doesn’t want to help investigator for some reason but makes an excited utterance “ I didn’t see any violence that night.”
Was there a history between Notaro and Sp? Where others informed of any history and what did Notaro say about this. Did they have contact in the 9 month interim.
A- Griffee in court hearing
B- Griffee to investigator of PD
C- Heidi to investigator
D- Seccia to Investigator
E- Notaro in civil suit brought by Lauren Sp(declaration under penalty of perjury
F- Notaro to investigator
G- Notaro- in affidavit
H- Notaro in transcript’
I- In civil suit declaration
A) Didn’t know any history
B. Notaro told him before her show(on Aprill 7,2008) that Sp been bothering of late and on a previous occasions had physically assaulted her and was very freaked out to see her.
C) Before her show even began notoro advised that Notaro walked up to the table where she was sitting at and she seemed upset at the time .She said she asked to notoro what was wrong and notoro told her something to the effect of “ this woman who has caused her a lot of problems is here.” Heidi stated that Notaro continued to tell her that she meaning Notaro had even needed to get a “restraining order” against this same female subject.
D- Notaro had informed him and other possible employeees at Largo of Al and stated that Notaro had been telling friends of hers, at various clubs where she performed at, About Al, and the fact that she, meaning, Al had supposedly been making some type of “threatening remarks against her. Due to this Notaro was concerned for her safey and she had wanted to make people aware of Al.
E. I never knew Al Sp till April 2008
F. Notaro said the next occasion, in which she had any type of contact with Al had occurred on 4/7/08
G. I had no contact with her in the nine months
H.I did not know her, only from showing up to see the person we had in common
I) Did not know any
Heidi stated that Notaro told her, “that is the ex-girlfriend of my girlfriend and she’s causing a lof of problems for us.” She said Notoro had also said something to her about this female subject was also “stalking” her Sp till April 8 2009
April 7, 2008
A. Tmu-notaro police report
B. Notaro to Spector- investigator
c. Notaro in affidavit
D. notaro in transcript,
E. Heidi(agent) to investigator
F. Griffee first version in transcript
G. Griffees’Second Instance in transcript
H. Griffees’ statement to investigator
What was Notaro doing when Sp approached her and when did it happen?
A. At approximately 2130 hours Notaro was talking to her agent (note show started at 21; 30 approx.)
B. Notaro advised that her brand new agent Heidi was also in attendance to see her perform her comedy show. After her show was over Notaro said she was in the audience and she was speaking to her agent.
All of a sudden, Notaro stated that Al then walked up to the two of them
C. After I got off stage Al approached me…. then continued a conversation I was having with my agent
D. SHE SHOWED UP, AND AFTER SHE SHOWED, I WAS SPEAKING TO MY AGENT, AL INTERRUPTED ME...
E. Never approached Notaro
F.Witnessed no interactin I SAID -- YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WITNESS ANY INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM
G. I DON'T KNOW. IT WAS AFTER THE CLUB -- THE MUSIC WAS UP. THERE WAS PEOPLE ALL AROUND ME TALKING. I WAS STANDING AT THE END OF THE -- I WAS STANDING IN THE KITCHEN, AND THE DOOR HAD OPENED.TIG -- MS. NOTARO WAS AT THE END OF THE BAR. ISAID, MICHAEL -- MICHAEL AND I JUST CAME OUT FROM THE KITCHEN AND SAID WHAT'S UP, AND SHE JUST SAID, YOU KNOW,THIS PERSON IS ACTING AGGRESSIVE AND THREATENING AND I DON'T KNOW ANY HISTORY OR ANYTHING. SAY, OH, LET ME TAKE CARE OF THAT. I SAID, "TIG, GO TO THE KITCHEN." I WAS WALKING PAST HER AND THE DEFENDANT AND HER HAD WORDS. I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT. THE DEFENDANT WAS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW: "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU ARE CRAZY. YOU ARE CRAZY."
H..Notaro told him to remove Sp after the show. No mention of any approach.
What did Sp Say to Notaro and what does Notaro say to Sp before her removal by Griffee?
A. Spstepped in front of Notaro and stated, “You remember me?” Notaro told Sp that she did not want to talk to her. Sp continued staying in front of Notaro
B. All of a sudden, Notaro stated that Al then walked up to the two of them and said, “Do you know who I am?” Do you remember me? Notaro replied back to her and said, “I know who you are. You shoved me.”
C. After I got off stage Al approached me to ask if I remembered her. I said plainly, “Yes, I do.” And then continued a conversation I was having with my agent. Al interrupted saying “no you don’t remember me. I said, Yes the night we met you were being aggressive and you pushed me. I remember you and I don’t want to talk to you at all. Leave me alone. Al became quickly enraged and insisted repeatedly that I was lying.
D.AL INTERRUPTED ME, AND SAID:"YOU DON'T REMEMBER ME. DO YOU REMEMBER ME?" I SAID, "I DO," AND THEN TURNED BACK TO MY AGENT. THEN SHE INTERRUPTED ME AGAIN. SHE SAID "I DON'T THINK YOU REMEMBER ME." I SAID, "I DO REMEMBER YOU. TIME I MET YOU WERE AGGRESSIVE. YOU PUSHED ME, AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU AT ALL."THEN SHE GOT IN MY FACE AND -- IF YOU WILL EXCUSE ME, I WILL TELL YOU WHAT SHE CALLED ME A CRAZY DIKE CUNT GOT IN THE MY FACE. AND AT THAT POINT I HAD THE SECURITYREMOVE HER, AND HE IS ALSO HERE.SHE SHOWED UPCLAIMING THAT SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT I WAS PERFORMING THERE AND SHE SHOWED UP.
E. Sp did not try to make any contact with notaro that evening. (The agent who is standing right there)
F. No contact witnessed
G. No contact witnessed
H. Griffee advised that nothing happened during Notaro’s show involving Al. He said he believed that Al sat in the back of the club by the bar area, during her particular show.
What prompted Notaro to have Sp removed, what was said by Sp and how was it done?
A. Sp continued staying in front of Notaro. Notaro asked security to remove Sp.
B. After this brief encounter, Notaro said she walked to an employee who works at Largo, named Michael, and he had asked Al to leave the location at her request
C. Al became quickly enraged and insisted repeatedly that I was lying. Because I was afraid it would escalate, I had Michael Griffee, the doorman at largo, escort her out of the building
D. THEN SHE GOT IN MY FACE AND …SHE CALLED ME A CRAZY DIKE CUNT GOT IN THE MY FACE AND AT THAT POINT I HAD THE SECURITY REMOVE HER.
E. Nothing witnessed by Heidi
F. TIG EXPRESSED THAT SHE FELT THREATENED BY THE DEFENDANT, AND SHE ASKED IF I WOULD ASK HER TO LEAVE. AND, OF COURSE, IN MY LINE OF WORK, IF MY ARTIST FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT ANYTHING, I ASK THEM TO LEAVE
G. After her show had ended, Griffee stated Notaro had come up to him and told him there was a subject who was now inside the club, and she wanted this subject to leave. After briefly speaking with Notaro, Griffee said the female subject in question whom Notaro had been speaking about, was Al.
Notaro told him that Al had been bothering him as of late.and on a previous occasion had previous occasion she had physically assaulter her. By her being at the club it made Notaro “uncomfortable.” as well as she said it was “freaking her out.” Griffee advised that he always likes to take care of his performers, so as to Notaro’s request, he then walked up to Al and asked her to leave his club.
In what manner did Sp leave when asked by Grifee what did she say upon exiting? What did Griffee say?
A- no meniton
B. No mention
C. No mention
D. No mention
E. No Menton
F. THE COURT: DID SHE LEAVE PEACEFULLY?
MR. GRIFFEE: BASICLY, YES. THEN, AS -- WHEN SHE GOT TO THE FRONT DOOR, SHE JUST SAID: "YOU KNOW, SHE'S CRAZY. SHE SAYS I DID ALL THIS STUFF
TO HER. SHE'S CRAZY."SHE KEPT SAYING HOW TIG WAS CRAZY AND SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. I SAID: "THAT'S NOT MY PLACE TO JUDGE.YOU NEED TO LEAVE NOW.
G. Not clear- says now that Sp “had words” with Notaro before leaving but doesn’t specify where.and says now to Griffee that he’s crazy.
H.” Griffee stated at first Al didn’t’ want to leave, and in fact said to him, “ I didn’t do anything.”. After a few minutes of speaking with her, Griffee said that Al finally agreed to leave the premises. Griffee stated that Al asked for her 5 dollar cover charge back, of which he gave it back to her, and prior to leaving she said, to him , “ I’m crazy, but she’s the crazier one.”
Why did Griffee ask her to leave?
In court: Because Notaro told him she felt threatened.
To investigator: Because he’d observed Sp “on line” and she was acting “tweaky” Also, Notaro at the beginning informed him that Sp had physically assaulted Notaro in the past and Notaro was very freaked out by her.
Was there a history between Notaro and Sp? Where others informed of any history and what did Notaro say about this.
J- Griffee in court hearing
K- Griffee to investigator of PD
L- Heidi to investigator
M- Seccia to Investigator
N- Notaro in civil suit brought by Lauren Sp(declaration under penalty of perjury
O- Notaro to investigator
P- Notaro- in affidavit
Q- Notaro in transcript’
R- In civil suit declaration
A) Didn’t know any history
B. Notaro told him before her show(on Aprill 7,2008) that Sp been bothering of late and on a previous occasions had physically assaulted her
C) Before her show even began notoro advised that Notaro walked up to the table where she was sitting at and she seemed upset at the time .She said she asked to notoro what was wrong and notoro told her something to the effect of “ this woman who has caused her a lot of problems is here.” Heidi stated that Notaro continued to tell her that she meaning Notaro had even needed to get a “restraining order” against this same female subject.
Heidi stated that Notaro told her, “that is the ex-girlfriend of my girlfriend and she’s causing a lof of problems for us.” She said Notoro had also said something to her about this female subject was also “stalking” her
D- Notaro had informed him and other possible employeees at Largo of Al and stated that Notaro had been telling friends of hers, at various clubs where she performed at, About Al, and the fact that she, meaning, Al had supposedly been making some type of “threatening remarks against her. Due to this Notaro was concerned for her sarefet and she had wanted to make people aware of Al.
E. I never knew Al Sp till April 2008
F. Notaro said the next occasion, in which she had any type of contact with Al had occurred on 4/7/08
G. I had no contact with her in the nine months
H.I did not know her, only from showing up to see the person we had in common
I) Did not know any Sp till April 8 2009
April 12th
A) What transpired at the front door of largo?
B) What was said and to whom at front door?
Notaro Police statement of Notaro
A) Notaro was standing outside with owner, Mark Flanagan Notaro
saw Sp and her sister running towards her. She ran inside and security closed the doors.
B)Sp pounded on the doors and yelled, “where gonna get that fucking dyke!”
Affidavit of Notaro
A) I was standing outside the club with the owner Mark Flanagan. I noticed Al and her sister, Lauren Sp, about fifteen feet away from my right. They ran towards me and lunged at me, and I ran inside before they could make physical contact. They were not allowed entrance into the club, and Mark Flanagan called the police.
B) “were going to get that dyke.”
Notaro Court testimony-
A) AND I WAS OUTSIDE OF THE VENUE TALKING TO THE OWNER OF THE CLUB, AND I LOOKED TO MY RIGHT AND AL AND HER SISTER RIGHT AS I TURNED TO MY RIGHT WERE RUNNING DOWN THE SIDEWALK TOWARDS ME. I WENT INSIDE. THE OWNER SHUT THE DOOR, WOULDN'T LET THEM IN. AT THAT POINT THEY HAD TO LOCK THE DOOR BECAUSE THEY WERE KICKING AND BEATING THE DOOR
B) “SAYING WE'RE GOING
TO GET THAT FUCKING DIKE.”
To investigator - When Al first showed up on this second night Notaro stated that she had been outside and talking with its owner Mark Flanagan Notaro said that Flanagan told her to immediately get inside the club and he would take care of Al and her sister.
E.Griffee court testimony- FRONT DOOR: Doesn’t mention anything about Notaro or her “get the fucking dyke” lie.
GRIFFEE:
A)BY THEN, THE OWNER WENT INSIDE AND I STAYED OUTSIDE. HER SISTER WAS WITH HER OR THE PERSON I WAS TOLD WAS HER SISTER WAS WITH HER, AND THEY BASICLY JUST BEGAN HARASSING ME SAYING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CLOSE DOWN THE CLUB AND THAT THEY WERE VERY POWERFUL PEOPLE; THAT I WAS AN ASSHOLE, A FAGOT, AND BALD,
YOU KNOW, SHE BASICLY JUST KEPT REITERATING, YOU KNOW, "WHY DID KICK ME OUT LAST" -- IWAS, YOU KNOW, FIVE DAYS BEFORE THEN "WHY DID YOU KICK ME OUT ON MONDAY. I WANT JUSTICE. I WANT JUSTICE." I KEPT SAYING, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. THIS IS MY BUSINESS. IF I SAY YOU SAY CAN’T BE HERE; YOU CAN'T BE HERE." THEY WALKED AWAY AFTER A COUPLE MINUTES,
F.Julius Quinn Roberts in sworn affidavit- I am the door guy at the dime which is no more than 16 feet away from where largo once was. I remember the day in question and remember nothing happen(ing) I even
talked to the ladies for a minute or two and invited them inside the dime for a drink. These ladies are good people to be around and everything that this woman said is a lie.
.Seccia to investigator- Michael Griffee had actually been the person who was working rear of this club at the night in question
H.Griffee to investigator- Now he never was out front at all. Only out back with Mark Flanagan
NOTE: According to Griffee the front door lasted a couple of minutes and then ten minutes later they were at the back door and there Seccia says that lasted “ several minutes”
How does this add up to Notaro’s and then Griffee’s(when hearing Notaro’s testimony) one hour and a half.
A) At the back door what happened?
B) What was said?
Notaro police report-
A) Al and Lauren went around to the back door, and for an hour and a half proceeded to verbally abuse Mark Flanagan and Michael Griffee, scream at the top of their lungs, and bang on the door.
B) Proceeded to verbally abuse Mark Flanagan and Micheal Griffee
Notaro Affidavit-
A) Sp pounded on the doors
B) yelled, “where gonna get that fucking dyke!”
Notaro Court testimony-
A) THEY WENT AROUND
TO THE BACK. THAT'S WHEN AGAIN MY BACK DOOR GUY FROM LARGO, THE HAD TO LOCK THE BACK DOOR,
B) AND JUST; SAYING: "WE'RE GOING TO GET THA FUCKING DIKE. SHE BETTER WATCH HER BACK. “
GRiFEE COURT TESTIMONY
A) to Judge:
Went to the back ten minutes later and Kevin And Griffe where there
Griffee to investigator: Flanagan and him back there and Sp hits Flanagan.
B) MS. SP BASICLY WAS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW: "THAT BITCH CAN'T GET ME THROWN OUT OF YOUR CLUB AND, YOU KNOW: "SHE HAS NO RIGHT TO TELL ME WHERE I CAN GO
SECCIA)
A) THAT WAS LATER IN THE EVENING. THAT WAS IN THE ALLEY WHEN I WAS SMOKING A CIGAR. AND THEY ARE JUST REALLY AGGRESSIVE
B)." "SHE IS A FUCKING CUNT," "WE'RE GOING TO GET HER,"THIS IS ISN'T OVER."
THEN SHE CALLED US NERDS, UGLY. ."
How long did the back door “ incident” last.-
Notaro police report –
an hour and a half
notaro Affidavit
Over an hour
Notaro Court testimony:
An hour and a half
Griffee testimony: SHE SAID THINGS OVER THE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, SIR
SECCIA to INVESTIGATOR:
Lasted several minutes
What happened inside with Notaro and others while the sisters were outside
Notaro to investigator- . She performed despite being in a “paranoid state.”
Seccia court testimony-
I REMEMBER MS.NOTARO COMING UP TO ME BEFORE HER SHOW REALLY OUT OF THE SORTS, NERVOUS, UPSET TO THE POINT THAT I WAS NOT -- I WAS WORRIED ABOU KNOW, HER PERFORMANCE, THAT SHE'S GOOD TO GO ON STAGE. SHE WAS REALLY FREAKED OUT, AND SHE EXPLAINED THE SITUATION,WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND WHAT HER CONCERNS WERE. ONE IS GOING TO COME IN HERE, NO ONE IS GOING TO -- MICHAEL WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. NO ONE IS GOING TO STORM THROUGH THE DOOR, YOU KNOW. I'M BACK HERE WATCHING THE DOOR. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO ON STAGE.
Seccia to Investigator- Doesn’t remember if the Sps tried to gain admittance or not. Doesn’t remember if he worked with Notaro on that night in question. Though he remembers that he was performing that night.
Griffee-
ran to lock all the doors
Notaro-
Performed thought was in a “paranoid state.”
Who was guarding the back door?
Notaro- Griffee her “door guy” locked the back door.
Griffee- didn’t work any particular door
Griffee:Locked the back door.
Seccia in court testimony- I'M BACK HERE WATCHING THE DOOR. Then out back smoking a cigar.
Seccia to investigator. An employee by the name of Micheal had actually been the person who was working at the rear of this club at the night in question. Was only out back to smoke a cigarette before he would perform.
What were seccia and griffee doing when the sisters came to the back door.
Notaro in affidavit and investigator report—Micheal griffee and mark Flanagan were out there for some reason. Seccia or Griffee sent to lock door. Not clear what he was doing outside of door.
Seccia in court testimony:
Was guarding the door as he had promised notaro
Seccia to investigator:
Seccia said he just happened to be smoking a cigarette outside between performances and talking with Griffee (Who seccia now says was in charge of working the back door that night)
when these two female subjects walked up to the two of them.
Where the police called on April 12 2008- and if so did they come
NotaroPolice - The police were called but Sp had left before they arrived
Notaro Affidavit Police were called--They left close to 11 p.m before the police could come.
Notaro to investigator—The police came, she saw them, but the Sps were long gone.
Julius the doorman for the dime bar 16 feet away when asked by us if they came: Bullshit.
Notaro Court testimony- Not mentioned.
Investigator - Notaro also advised that the police also showed up that evening at Largo but she believed that Al and her Sister had already left Largo. Prior to the police arriving there. She said that she carried on with her performance that evening.
Griffee testimony:
Doesn’t mention police being called or arriving at an time
Griffee to Spector:
Seccia in Testimony: No mention of them being summoned or arriving
Seccia to Investigator:
Doesn’t mention
Note: No incidence number mentioned in reports of any kind.
NOTE: Flanagan is never mentioned until the investigator as speaking to the sister or having any contact past the few minutes at the front door. Now he tells the investigator that Sp “pushes” him.
April 29, 2008
Was Sp removed from the club or not let in, and how did Notaro find out?
Notaro police report-
A friend had contacted her prior to the arrival at the club and told her that Sp had been removed by security.
Notaro affidavit
As I was driving to the club, Lesley Wolff, the promoter for the show called me to inform me that Al had been inside the club and had been removed
Notaro court testimony
I HAVE INFORMED THE CLUBS WHERE I PERFORM ABOUT AL AND HER SISTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE SHOWN UP PREVIOUSLY TO OTHER VENUES WHERE I HAVE PERFORMED, AND SO THEY KNEW ABOUT THEM. SO WHEN I WAS ARRIVING TO THE CLUB, THEY CALLED ME TO TELL ME -- THE CLUB CALLED TO TELL ME THAT AL WAS THERE AND SHE HAD BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CLUB
Notaro to investigator-
an unknown manager called her to warn her.
Whitaker
IT STARTED OFF, SHE CAME OUT FOR A CIGARETTE AND -- I NOTICED HER FROM THE PICTURE I WAS GIVEN AND WARNED OF,
Reeta Piazza
Brian wouldn’t let her in. Not removed.
What happened next. How and when did Notaro arrive at the club and when did she encounter the Sps??
Notaro Police statement: Here she only talks of her leaving the club.
At 2130 hours Notaro finished her act and was leaving the club. Notaro was outside with a friend when she saw Lauren Sp walking towards her. Notaro went back inside the club and watched from a window.
Notaro Affidavit As I pulled up at 8.PM, I saw Al Outside talking to People. I noticed a sherriff the street, unrelated to the situation, and asked him to see what was going on., to distract al, so I could go through the side door. They were pushing people, security and people in line.
Brian, the door security informed me that Al had announced to him my license plate number and color/make of car, and warned that she knew where I lived.
Notaro: Court testimony SO I SHOWED UP AT THE SHOW; AL, HER SISTER, AND THEN HER MOTHER, ALSO SHOWED UP WHILE I WAS PERFORMING AND SPENT TWO HOURS CASING THE PLACE AND MAKING THREATS AND HARRASSING.
Was she performing or not
What happened outside- when notaro left.
.
Notaro police report
At 2130 hours Notaro finished her act and was leaving the club. Notaro was outside with a friend when she saw Lauren Sp walking towards her. Notaro went back inside the club and watched from a window. Sp, her sister, and mother were all outside the club yelling about Sp being removed from the club. Sp stated that R better watch her back and that she knew where she lived what car she drove. Patrol officers were called and arrived at the scene
Affidavit
Notaro
At 9:30 p.m I was informed that Al had left, and then I attempted to leave the club. Just as I took a step out of the door I saw Lauren Walking towards the venue.. Feeling unsafe I went back inside. I was informed that Al, Lauren, and their mother were now all in the front of the club. I was stuck inside the club for two more hours as the three of them verbally attacked performers, patrons, and security. The police were called and made note of the incident but because my life had not been directly threatened they were unable to take action. Eventually, the three women left and I was able to go home
Statement in temp ro order. Notaro
They were pushing people outside
Court testimony- unclear but she says she’s inside the whole time and knows things somehow. Says that since they have been aggressive at other venues that she is scared and locked inside for many hours.
Julius: statement affidavit (doorman at the dime bar very close by and witnessed any activity at front door)
I am the door guy at the dime which is no more than 16 feet away from where largo once was. I remember the day in question and remember nothing happen(in) I even
talked to the ladies for a minute or two and invited them inside the dime for a drink. These ladies are good people to be around and everything that this woman said is a lie.
Where was griffee working
A. I was out front- himself
B. He was working the rear that night – Kevin seccia
Who is mentioned in affidavit and testimony?
Mark Flannigan and griffee
Who is not mentioned at all?
Kevin seccia
True or false, does seccia work for largo?
False, he has no affiliation with largo but he works with notoro on a regular basis.
The Sps verbally abuse for one and a half hours
One and a half hours
One and a half hours – tig notaro
They walked away after a few minutes and came up the alley 10 minutes later-griffee
The incident lasted several minutes- seccia
The doorman does not see
Them 15 feet away to the right running (where the dime is located
She is trapped inside the club for
a. 2 hours -notaro
b. 4 hours -notaro
c. 5 hours- whitaker
True or false
Does the Impov have a side door?
False,
But it does have a backdoor
A.Al her sister and her mother are casing the place for 2 hours
B the manager of the club only makes contact with Al that night, rest of family not there.
Notoro is aware of scary family because according to her this all is true.
A. she watches as they harass security and patron from window
B. she is inside doing her act on a stage ,not near a window
C. she hears what is going on from the manager
True or false
Is there a window at location family could be observed or a side door?
False
False (picture)
At the improv
Finally
A. the police arrive
B. B the police arrive but since her life was not directly threatened no action can be taken
C. The police report no crime has been committed
D. The police ask notoro what is wrong she say “something about a apartment listing and officer Braden tells family to get a lawyer,
True of false
Sp makes a scene by verbally and physically pushing people outside club
False: No one states they had any physically touched.
True or false
Witness doorman brain Whitaker does not know Notaro
True: he met Notoro that night.
True or false
Does brain Whitaker get gig with notaro at improv after testimony?
True
From Whitakers myspace: “Thank you tig great working with you “
Between April 7 and April 12. repeat confronting is disputed by two notoro witness
Who claim their was no contact, no one mentions any violence whatsoever
“two handed push/ shove 9 months ago. Maybe because he know how stupid it sounds.
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